
My guest in this podcast is Sally Ornstein, co-author and wife of Robert Ornstein. Sally is on the show to promote Robert’s final book that she co-authored entitled “God 4.0: On the Nature of Higher Consciousness and the Experience Called God,” The book offers a fresh understanding of how the brain can produce a transcendent shift in consciousness that some have called “seeing God.”
In the interview, Sally and I discuss about nonverbal experience, normal consciousness and the experience of creativity and problem solving that will direct your life and that will enable you to understand much more than you than you currently do.
If you want to know more about Robert and Sally Ornstein and their books, please click here to be directed to their website.
You may also click here for a free download offer of Ornstein’s final edition of his bestselling book, The Psychology of Consciousness,when you purchase God 4.0 today, October 15. 
THE BOOK
What if “God” was not some external being but rather the experience of certain brain states in which the self is transcended?
Could practices of modern day religions be degenerated relics of the true spiritual practices of the original prophets?
Might it be possible for humans to move beyond faith, belief, doctrine and emotion to directly experience states of consciousness sometimes referred to as “God?”
Drawing on research from neuropsychology and religion, to evolutionary psychology, anthropology, archeology, and genetics, God 4.0 documents these “what ifs” as “what is.” 
The authors begin by coalescing findings from the shamans of the Ice Age (God 1.0), to the first temples, priests and gods of the Neolithic era and Mesopotamia (God 2.0), to the Axial Age prophets and the three major monotheistic
religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam (God 3.0), showing how transcendence happens and has been sought since Paleolithic times
THE AUTHORS
Robert Ornstein
Considered one of the foremost experts on the brain, Robert Ornstein was an internationally renowned psychologist and author of more than 20 books on the nature of the human mind. He was perhaps best known for his pioneering research on the bilateral specialization of the brain, continually emphasizing the necessity of “conscious evolution” to meet the challenges of the 21st century. His books have sold over six million copies worldwide and have been
used in more than 20,000 university classes. Completed just before his death, God 4.0 was a collaboration with his wife Sally who edited and published it posthumously.
You may also refer to the transcripts below for the full transcription (not edited) of the interview.
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Great interview!
I just finished reading GOD 4.0. It is a deeply researched document in which the authors spent their lives studying such diverse topics as brain research, human consciousness, and the history of the rise of organized religions. I hope many readers will discover this book. It has the power to change how we view today’s religions and go beyond them to help create a more enlightened world. It gives us the guidance to do exactly that.
I see another reviewer called it “stunning” I agree one hundred percent. This is a game changer if we act upon it.