Greg Voisen
Welcome back to Inside Personal Growth. This is Greg Voisen, the host of Inside Personal Growth. And for many of you, you don't know our guests. He's joining us from Cardiff, California. And his name is William Gladstone. And he owns Waterside Productions. And I've known Bill for many, many years. And it's a pleasure to have him on the show. I actually think this is the first time he's actually been a guest on Inside Personal Growth. So Bill, good day to you. How are you doing?

William Gladstone
I'm doing great. It is the first time I've been on your show. I think I've sent at least a dozen authors who have been on your show in the past. I and that's because I'm better known as a literary agent and publisher. But I'm also an author, though in the past, you know, my books have been novels like the 12 and books that wouldn't necessarily have fit for your show. But today, I'm delighted this book that I just rereleased doctrine, Master Sha, Miracle Soul Healer: Documenting a Legend is a perfect fit for your show. So that's why today's the first time you're going to have me on your show.

Greg Voisen
Well, and you have quite a history with Dr. Shay. It's Dr. and Dr. Shay Shaw, Shaw. I want to make sure I say it. Right. Yeah. And you know, the book was fascinating. As I was doing the review, I was reading some of the stories. And you know, you go back to being introduced to Dr. Shah. It's actually Dr. and Master Shaw is how it's referred through a friend of yours, Rick, freshman. You You met him in 2013? What kind of has your journey been like? Because, you know, it was like, Okay, let's publish this book. This guy had already been published and other places. He's got another book coming out. And you decided to take this project on. And it it seems like it was a real epiphany for you to work. Well.

William Gladstone
It was fun from the beginning. I have to say so, you know, back this is 10 years ago. Now. You know, we've been very successful. We represented the for Dummies series, made a ton of money. And then got into people like Neale Donald Walsch for special projects, Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson, so you know, and then we had a big success, of course with Eckhart Tolle. So you know, as an agency, we're kind of a big name. And Rick was a big time publicist in the book business, so he had, you know, represented the Chicken Soup for the Soul authors and some other very successful book authors. And he called me up out of the blue and said, Bill, I've got this author, and he's a New York Times bestselling author, and he wants an agent, well, as an agent who's gonna say no, you know, oh, sure. Let me talk to him. And so we set up the call. And for some reason, the call wasn't set up until like nine o'clock on a Friday night. And I'm in California. And I'm assuming that he's in California. Well, he was actually on the east coast. So this call went on for a couple of hours. And I'm thinking oh, so 11 o'clock, it's getting late, you know, you've been on the call a long time. And I find out it's two in the morning. And he's, he was as coherent. And as fun I have to say, Dr. Master shot is a unique individual, he has very high energy, obviously, he has an incredible task of training as both a medical doctor at China's best western medicine university, but then he also from the age of six, was motivated to learn tai chi, chi, Gong, herbal medicine, acupuncture, all the traditional Chinese modalities for healing. And on top of all that, he's a very intelligent individual who understands business. So the first two hours that I spent with him on the phone, we were talking about his contracts. I was, you know, we don't take people on. I mean, I'm not we've made enough money that, yes, you know, we don't ignore it. But it's not our primary motivation. Our primary motivation is helping authors and publishers because we represent publishers as well create and distribute books that are going to create a better world. So Dr. Shah fit that. But at the same time, if I don't think I can add value, I'm not going to take someone on. And I was very hesitant because it was a master shot. I looked at the contract had Rick had sent it over that he had with Simon and Schuster said, You have a great contract, you have great success. Why do you even need an agent? I you know, you already have great deals, and you said, Well, I did some research, and you did the dummies series. And that's really what I want. I want a series of books. And I want to sell hundreds of millions of books like you did with the dummies not just hundreds of 1000s of books and said well, I can't guarantee that level of success. But you know, I can actually get you better deal there's there's new things happening in publishing, we can do a profit share deal with someone. You're doing all of the marketing anyway. So yeah, I'll take you on. And that started the relationship. And I had already done and the first deal for him on his first book, which, to my amazement, he wrote from start to finish in less than a month, and it was a big book, Miracle soul healer. And I ended up selling it to BenBella, which was an up and coming publisher, and we got a great deal. And then he was giving a healing conference of some kind in Solimar, California, which is not too far from Cardiff, I can't remember exactly, it's up the coast. But I have other clients. So I always, you know, make a trip every few months up the coast. So I said, okay, let's meet. So I drive up. And I'm with my wife, Gail. And I'm in Salem, Oregon, I'm looking around, and I see this Chinese man in a suit, and sitting on a bench. And I said, I bet that's Dr shot. But anyway, so we have to go to our hotel and check in and all like that. And then he was the the person. And we had arranged to meet at the Chinese restaurant nearby in the town near there. And we went to dinner. And we had about an hour and a half before this event that he wanted to have us participated mainly, you know, just observe what he was doing. And I was struck by the fact that he's such a humble guy. I mean, well, this was not a fancy Chinese restaurant, you know, as normal sort of every day, kind of, and he was just a normal everyday guy. And this is interesting. So then we go to the event. And now it's, you know, nine o'clock at night, at least maybe even 10. And this room is full, it's probably close to 1000 people, I don't know, 600, at least, I don't know the size of it, but it's full. And they're all there. And they're like, totally riveted to every word he's saying. And he takes up this blackboard and he starts teaching. He's teaching about the nature of energy, and the nature of healing. And there's all diagrams and it's like, I'm, I'm back at college, I mean, this is teaching. And then about an hour into it after the teaching, he brings out an individual who they have identified as having had very severe cancer. And they've been able to reduce the cancer from, you know, significant size to a very small size. And they haven't they're to continue to do the work. So they actually master shot does his at this time he was using mostly chanting, it was he never touched the individual. And he actually was having the people who were all student healers, which I didn't understand when I first went there. And they, he was teaching them how to do what he does. And that's what really got me interested, because I've done books about John of God, and I've done books about other miracle. So one that sold miracle healers, but I'd never met anyone who not only was able to heal, but was able to teach others how to heal. So this really intrigued me. And I should share with your audience. I have a background as a scientist, I had an article published as an undergraduate in the Yale scientific when I was a student at Yale. And then I went to Harvard University where I studied medical anthropology. So I had a background in this, which is one of the reasons I was so intrigued. And I know about the placebo. And that is, you know, always a factor in healing. In fact, the strongest correlate cross culturally in all studies and of anthropology is that the leading indicator of success is belief in the practitioner, no matter what modality even with Western medicine, if you don't believe you have a much less chance of success of he'll appeal. So I thought maybe this is just that and but then, you know, we after the success of the first book, master shot was not totally satisfied with the results. We sold three 400,000 copies I was satisfied for that was great. But you know, we still hadn't gotten to our million copy book, and it was actually the publisher of BenBella. Glen. Yes, he's a good friend of mine who said, well, you know, you should do something like your dummies books you should do like Dr. and Master shot for dummies. And of course, we couldn't do that because Wiley owns the for dummies. trademark. They said, okay, well, I could do it, you know, because i Right very quickly. And you know, I enjoy writing. So I said, I'll write I'll write a book about Dr. Master Sham. That's that was the first edition of miracle soul healer. And my goal in this book, is really to introduce people who have no background in healing, no background in spirituality, no background in Chinese

Greg Voisen
techniques. Yeah,

William Gladstone
medicine. Who is this doctrine master shot? How has he achieved what he's achieved? What has he achieved? Is there true scientific evidence that these are real? Are they replicable? And then, after I had written the first draft of the manuscript and did share it with Dr. Master shove, be sure I had everything correct, because there's a lot of individual information about his family. And I wanted to be sure I had everything correct. He said, I liked your book, but it's missing a whole part. So what's that, you have to talk about my master teachers and students that are also healing. So we added another section to the book. And you know, there's about a dozen of his top teachers who I also profile, including their successes, and that's where I really, at that time was completely dumbfounded. Because how can you possibly teach someone to do this kind of healings, because as far as I had been able to determine, it really was based on Dr. Sean's own connection to what he calls the source for the Dow. Right, his ability to sort of bring in and this may sound

Greg Voisen
strange just named Bill doesn't he call it the dung Yi Gong. Unbelievable power I, you know, speak with the listeners about that. He used this process to heal people. Yes. I may be saying this wrong.

William Gladstone
No, no, but yeah. And just so you know, I'm going to talk in plain English, I don't use any of his Chinese language, because

William Gladstone
the book has all the Chinese words, and it has even the pronunciation. I don't know why I'm not dyslexic. But even when I see oh, you pronounced like this, I pronounced it incorrectly. So same things that any Chinese listener would say these guys are idiots. I just use English equivalents. So what I've learned about that, I mean, it's, I mean, it's, I do want and can't pronounce, apparently, Chi is energy. Yeah, she in the Chinese system, is responsible for everything, the movement of energy, everything related to health. And Dr. Schatz system, she is controlled by the, by the heart, that heart can send energy to the cheetah, which is the body, and that can heal, but you have to go to what he calls the soul. So I don't know what the word is being used in Chinese. But I mean, I do know the word but it can't pronounce it properly, but it's the soul. So you go to the soul, the soul moves the heart, the heart moves, the Chi, the matter. Because it is you have to get down to the level of matter. We're all matter. We live at the level of matter, right. But then what I've learned, and I didn't know this, at the time, I wrote the first edition, this is one of the reasons I rewrote the book, and added a lot of material, I have a much better understanding now of the methods, because each one of us has what he calls soul energy. But then there's the ultimate soul energy, which is the soul energy with the Dow. And so that's why if I had rewritten this book today, and didn't want to use, you know, I would have had to totally, totally rewrite it, I would have changed the title. And I may do a third edition five years from now I want to understand even more, and I would have I would call it Dow miracle soul healer, because it's really about accessing the Dow. And I now understand from Master shops that when he's accessing the Dow, the Dow is, I mean, I now co-host an entire show an hour every week, just going through the what they call the Dao De Jing, which is the original explanation of the DAO, written by Lao Tzu more than 2600 years ago. And and the very first chapter that Lao Tzu says the DAO cannot be seen, cannot be heard, cannot be touched, and cannot be understood by human beings. But, and it's not even called the Dow. But we're going to use the word Dow. And we're going to give as much information as we can. So human beings can benefit from understanding the source, the source of all and it's an eternal source that always has existed

Greg Voisen
before he calls it universal law and universal science, right? Yes, that's what that's what you refer to it. You know, he had this divine encounter and your interview with him about the divine encounter and what you learned about what he refers to as universal law universal service.

William Gladstone
Yes. Well, that that is actually underneath the Dow because the Dow created heaven and earth, the Dow created the gods, actually. So when he's talking to God, he's talking to let me just finish that and then we'll get back into this. But before there was the big bang, there was the dowel after the contraction because many sciences thinks the entire universe you know, expands and then contraction and we'll come back to you know, can't even describe it. It will be so small, and you know, virtually from our experience at the level of reality, we live, disappear, and then the whole thing will start over again. But the Dow itself is immune to all of that the Dow is before creation before the Big Bang after the Big Bang. It's truly eternal. And everything that we can imagine sense or possibly experience is derived from the source from the GAO itself. So it's a fairly common flex concept. Science cannot prove it, because it's at a level and in a dimension ality that is beyond science. But there's nothing in our science, including, you know, many new findings about non local quantum entanglement, everything that's been discovered in the last 50 years that supports this type of theory, and many of my other authors, including Deepak Chopra, who has written extensively on the subject that we don't really exist. Now, of course, we exist. But we exist almost in the way that a video game exists, where we are not really the creators of our hologram.

William Gladstone
Anyway, so it can I think the word The

Greg Voisen
Dow is a way for people to look at. I'm gonna say this, because I think you and I have been in this community for a long time. And I've done I'm just about close to 1000 interviews now with people on spirituality, and these kinds of things. And sometimes it's a bit amorphous. So you have to kind of put your hands around a word or something to try and explain this and I get what you're trying to explain is challenging you do a great job in the book it in and that's I'm going to encourage my listeners, go get a copy of the book, it's up on Amazon, check out waterside productions as well, if you've got an interest in learning more about Bailey puts out a weekly or monthly newsletter as well about all of his new authors. But you know, this is soul healing. You've said this a couple of times so I want to go back to this soul healing.

William Gladstone
And now we're ready for that. I just wanted to get the broader Okay, next what you know at the time I wrote the book, but you're absolutely right. It

Greg Voisen
comes down to he comes down to in the book are you did? Yeah. From all these practices, chi gong, tai chi, acupressure, acupuncture, yoga, all these healing practices are considered energy medicine, right? Yes. Everybody out there listening in my audience is they get energy medicine. We've all done it. Speak with us about what you and Dr. Shaw or in more importantly, what Dr. Shaw says energy medicine is to heal the soul.

William Gladstone
Okay, so you start in masters Shas system of belief. Everything has a soul. Every individual molecule has a soul, every individual human being has, you know, I don't know if there's a trillion atoms, whatever he is in each of us, but each one of those atoms has a soul. And the soul of that atom controls the destiny of that atom. So what Dr. Shah focuses on is connecting to the soul of the area that is symptomatic. So if you're suffering from I mean, his most recent book was just dealing with back pain. So if you're suffering from back pain, he now and this is we'll get into this the

Greg Voisen
the colon polyp that you're dealing with, well,

William Gladstone
I'm working, I'm working with master shot on that, okay, special calligraphy I could even go get. And I trace it now he's put all of his energy and he didn't do this when I first met him. This is something he's evolved over the last 10 years, he has found a way to take his healing energy and put it he goes into what I would call a semi trance where he's connecting with a different dimension of realities. And that dimension of reality brings in the healing energy, and he puts it into the calligraphy and then he has the individual patient, trace the calligraphy you can either do it with your hand, you can actually the most effective ways. It's almost like you do a dance where you're coming from your core and you're tracing the calligraphy if you're unable to move because you're in a severe medical situation. You can just also do it with your eyes you can trace it with your eyes. And by doing this, you are recreating the energetic connection that he is able to create with the dowel within Okay, so I That is the basis now of the majority of his healings. Now he has other modalities. Also, he has doubts on so in addition to giving me this wonderful calligraphy, he created a seven minute chat. And he says, just play the chat, play it, you know, even when you're sleeping, it's going to be working. So and he doesn't ever promise, you know, because every individual in his belief system has a fate that is linked to that individual's karma. He believes all of us.

Greg Voisen
So the karma cleansing is the, you know, go to that, you know, how does it work? Well, because we're looking at karma is all of the things that happened to us through the course of all the various reincarnations are bringing, well,

William Gladstone
it's even more complicated than that, because it's not just your karma. It's the karma of your ancestors of your family, because you have the same DNA, so that DNA has responsibility at the cosmic level. So you may have had impeccable past lives. You. And you know, frankly, in the beginning, I not a believer in reincarnation. So I was a little skeptical, but everybody's got their own sort of way. And as long as it works, you know, maybe this is correct, I'm now leaning more, there probably is something to this, but I think it's even more complex. And Dr. Shah is stating, because there is a level on which there's sort of the Divine Law of Balance, you can call it a Karma law. And I do believe in that I've seen it, you know, in small ways, but I think, you know, what he's referring to is, there's a much larger way, sort of the yin and the yang, there, everything's going to be balanced in the end. And so maybe it is true that you've led an impeccable life, and you've led a good life, in your past lives, but you come from a family that's taken advantage of others done some terrible things, you're gonna have to pay for the sins of the father, we can call it. So no one is immune to having negative things happen to them, no matter how good a human being you may be. So when that happens, Dr. Shah believes you have to clean up the karma, whether it's your own personal karma, or the karma of your ancestors. So that's his first point of attack. And he has ways of helping you do that. And one thing Dr. Shah will always say is, you know, I am just a servant, and I am not in charge, you have the ability to heal yourself. I give you these tools, use them. And I hope they're going to work for you. But Dr. Shah and I have discussed there are situations where he has, because he does have a connection to the divine. And you know, he just goes in, and if somebody comes to him with a illness that he doesn't feel he can he'll tell them, No, I can't, I can't help you. So it's not 100%. In my observations and studies of him, he rarely says no, it's less than one to 2% of the time that he'll say, this is something I can't help with. But when he says he can help, he doesn't guarantee says, it's really going to be dependent upon the karma of the individual. I can give them the tools. And if, you know, they're open to it, in most cases, and I've recorded personally investigated hundreds of cases, and I've seen 1000s of cases of miraculous healings. I mean, people with severe cancers, people with spontaneous

Greg Voisen
remission is it's been around for some time. This thick written on spontaneous remission occurs, but

William Gladstone
yeah, but spontaneous remission. does not explain how you can have 1000s of spontaneous remissions.

Greg Voisen
No, no, I get that. What I'm saying though, is, you know, also to, to get to this, you know, when you were kind of kicking the tires around this, because you're not saying you have skeptic skepticism. I was skeptical. No, but I was skeptical, you know, and then you went to this ruling Zhu Zi, Xiu, I don't know how to pronounce the last name. Yes. Is that introduced me to this ruling? Zoo? Yeah. Okay. Speak with us about the meeting with her and what you learned about Seoul? Because she evidently, was another resource for you to actually back up. What?

William Gladstone
Well, that's what I was saying about the science and she, she's from China, but she was educated at Berkeley, which is one of the best universities in the United States. And she's a PhD candidate, and then got her PhD. With the hope of uncovering the unified field theory, that is sort of the ultimate goal of a physicist, and you know, you've had 1000s of physicists over the last. Ever since Einstein presented the unified field as a concept. Try I'd like to derive the underlying reality of the unified field and explain it, and no one's been successful. So Ruhlin was so frustrated for a time she gave up. And then she met Master Sha, unrelated to her core interest in science, and was trained and became a healer herself. And then she realized that what Master Shah was doing, explained the true nature of the unified field, and went back and worked with master shot to develop what she calls the science. And so there are now other scientists who are looking at the formulations that Ruhlin and master Shah have created together, they even came up with an equation to explain it all. And it's fascinating, and it does support from a scientific perspective. This is why people like Deepak Chopra, have jumped on the bandwagon and attended special events that we've held with both Dr. Ruhlin and master Shah, trying to understand how this healing really works. Because for me, there has it's wonderful. And it isn't enough if you're in need just to go without understanding the science of it. But my father was a chemist, he studied with Yuri, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. So I was raised, where you really had to have a scientific method if you're going to accept something. And so I've been pushing for that. And I think there's a lot of people who feel similarly, the results are great, but how does it work? Why do I

Greg Voisen
think many listeners like you have the background? They say, evidence based, right? You know, I just did a big project with Mayo Clinic. I'm now working with Dr. Richie Davidson, the guy that's worked with Dalai Lama for the last 30 years, who has now an app out, right, so Dalai Lama says to don't study anxiety, and depression, study compassion, and whatever. he dedicates his whole life to this now he's back in Wisconsin two weeks ago, with the whole team. The point was, is it you know, he puts all the electrodes on the head, and they do the studies, and they say, you know, neurologically, this is exactly what's happening under stress. This is what's going on. Right. So, you know, he is saying he has the biggest evidence based pool of data that actually warrants mindfulness meditation practices, right, which we're doing so is that oh, no, but and then I have someone else on the other end of the spectrum bill that says, hey, but what's what your, your, that's this, there's a symptom that's causing that stress? Are you treating that? Or are you just take doing the meditation and mindfulness practices? And that would be like, hey, adverse childhood experiences, the ACE studies that many doctors here at Kaiser have been working on with people and so on. And you know, you say you look at this community around you your science, science and evidence base. And I think for a lot of people, it's, it's very important, whether they're on my show, or they're not, or they're, or they're just out there listening to this podcast, they kind of want proof.

William Gladstone
Well, that's exactly where I'm headed as well. So master shot in addition to working with, he attracts very bright, intelligent, dedicated people. So one of his master teachers is a man, Dr. Peter Doba, who is a neuroscientist, very highly regarded. And forget which university in Canada, but one of the best. And anyway, he has teamed up with Dr. Master shop, and they've done studies and medical studies that with hundreds of patients, evidence based studies showing the effectiveness. So that was part of my research. And, and this has been ongoing. Is

Greg Voisen
that in the is, is that kind of something that's coming up in the next series of the book? Yes,

William Gladstone
absolutely. Yeah. Because you're I'm waiting for the final because as you know, with science, Oh, okay. Now we have this study, now you have to replicate it. I mean, you know, they're doing as thorough research as was done well, more thorough, frankly, in my opinion, you know, for the COVID vaccines where

Greg Voisen
everybody was, yeah, no, I know that. You mean, I got the whole controversial stuff around that. But here, look, your daughter had cancer.

William Gladstone
Yeah, my stepdaughter. But yeah, and this is totally, totally documented, and we could get her on the show as well. So she was diagnosed with breast cancer with stage which is pretty serious. They said, You're gonna have to have an operation, we're gonna have to remove the breast. And, you know, there's no guarantee we'd get there in time. You know, you could still have cancer after that happens and many women die from this. So this was all scheduled. We found out this was when Master Shah was just starting to use the calligraphies. I, probably about eight years ago, it was after I'd written the first edition, but of the book, but so you know, we called and because of our relationship, he sent her a calligraphy. And he sent her a chance. And she played it religiously, and she traced. And I think she died all of that about a month before her operation. And when they went into operate on her, they said, this is kind of strange, we can't find the cancer, but we know it was there a month ago. And we're gonna still go ahead with the operation, because we don't want to take the chance that we're just not finding it. So they did operate on her anyway. But the good news is, the cancer has never returned. There is no cancer right now. And this is eight years. So this is this was quite, I mean, miraculous. I had some small things that had given me sort of eye opener, maybe this really does work when I was skeptical. I play a lot of golf. And I had a big tournament coming up. And I had golfer's elbow, Greg, I think is a golfer, your and other golfers will know, you can't really play when your elbow was inflamed. And I was, you know, thinking I wasn't going to play in the tournament, I casually mentioned to master Shah, you know, I had this little condition because I had a meeting with him just like two days before the tournament. And so that's nothing here. And he immediately drew a little diagram calligraphy, actually on the in a book that we didn't even have paper with us. And he drew it in a book. And he said here, you just, you know, at that time, it wasn't he didn't even have the technique, Trey said, you just hold this book, this image that I just created on your on the arm, you know, five minutes tonight, five minutes in the morning, in two days, you'll have no problem. And he was right. And I played in the tournament, I actually won the tournament. So that was like, okay, this is just good luck. I mean, I mean, doesn't prove anything was very important to me. But you know, we intact,

Greg Voisen
like you said something earlier, right at the beginning of this. And I think for my listeners, you had this amazing trust in what Dr. Shaw said, well, in other words, we know that and MIT and all the places that have studied, you know, healing. Look, it's I'm trying to think of the book, it wasn't that long ago, but where people come back again and again for things that they basically don't take care of in their life. Right. They're not good patients. In your case, you had this amazing belief in him. And I think that's a, you know, you're talking about Norman Vincent Peale. I used to ride around and listen to cassette tapes that he did for years in the car, right. And he was so inspiring to me, I say that many times. He helped me he's out of depression 1000s of times.

William Gladstone
Right, I agree with you. And that is a strong component. And obviously, if you have trust, and you have belief, that's going to increase significantly the success you're gonna have, but let me give you another story. That kind of shows. You don't even need that. In the case of Dr. Master shots. My biological daughter, Tara was getting married. And we really made a big deal out of it. We rented an island off of Cata case in Spain, you know, hundreds of 1000s of dollars being spent. And two weeks before the wedding. She had fallen or hurt her ankle foot area. And she was in a boot. She couldn't walk. She went to the medical doctors, they said, Oh, we're so sorry. But there's no way you're going to be able to walk down the aisle. You know, this is going to take months to heal. It's not going to heal in two weeks. So well, I've got so much on the line I call up Dr. Nestor shy said, Is there anything you can do to help us at all I'll do a calligraphy I can't guarantee results, but I'll send it and we'll see what happens. So she gets the calligraphy three days before the wedding starts tracing and she is totally skeptical, but she's desperate. It's like she's got nothing else, you know, available, so she does it. Miraculously she's able to walk and this is not a normal aisle. This is like a quarter of a mile because we're on that island. It's a dirt path. And she loves to dance. Not only was she able to walk down the aisle she danced to four in the morning wedding went on quite a while. She did several weeks later have to have some more treatment to because there was a break or fracture and it didn't totally heal it but it heals it enough, even without her believing, necessarily in doctrine master shots and so that got my attention. Because well,

Greg Voisen
you know, obviously you are a believer in your shop. And I think my listeners understand by now that if they're looking for alternatives, you know, this is a good book to look to, it's a good introduction book, it's a good way to get exposed to this, it's a good way for you to explore alternatives to healing in your whole life right now. And that's what I was going to ask here and kind of wrapping up things. You know, you fill this book with stories about Dr. Master Shaw. So healings, what would you like the listeners to know about how they can access because, you know, he's about teaching other people how to use what he knows he

William Gladstone
has a wonderful group of people that are now you know, implementing his techniques. Okay, it's very hard at this time to have a one on one session with Dr. Master shot, he does blessings. He's evolved. He's now blessing water. So he has data water. And once a week, you can go online, and you know, have a session. It's a group session, of course, and He blesses water. And there's hundreds of reports of people just from this water blessing than drinking the water. And there's a technique, he's very much about gratitude, in everything that he does. He's always giving gratitude, to the doubt to the source to what others might call their god or whatever their, you know, sense of creation is. And Dr. Shah explains is, I can heal myself, you can heal yourself together, we can heal the world. And he really feels that everyone's obligation is to heal themselves, whenever possible, because when you heal yourself, you're raising the vibration of not only yourself, but of the planet. And we're all connected, interconnected. And this is what quantum physics is showing us. And it's by raising the health and the vibration of the planet, that we are really able to heal ourselves. And healing ourselves is the first step. And then you can learn to heal others, you can use these techniques. And if you want to follow this, and some people, you know, can create a career out of it or a sideline, He'll teach you how to do that. There's many, many classes and all this is available, where would

Greg Voisen
our listeners go to know what's in your book?

William Gladstone
Yeah, I think it's just WW. Dr. sean.com. I'm not good. With all the technical

Greg Voisen
info, here's what I'll do, I will put a link in the blog for my listeners, they can go to Dr. Shaw's website, I will also put a link to the waterside production so people can go

William Gladstone
one of the things that actually I'm going to recommend right here on the show is I'll connect you with Dr. Masters, I'm sure he would love to be on your show. And what he does, when he's on shows, in addition to answering your questions, they'll do a blessing for all of your listeners, he'll actually do a blessing that can have significant healing impact. And one of the things about Master shots is he doesn't limit it just to physical, mental, emotional, and even things related to career finances, marriage relationships, his techniques work with all areas of life. So you know, it's really a blessing to have,

Greg Voisen
I'm sure he said impacts on millions of lives, whether he knows it or not. The reality is, is that, you know, there's pain, I want to say it, these people that have come on the planet to do this kind of work as sages and healers. And there's many of them. Obviously, we have many on the show. But I wanted to expose his work one because of you. I really respect you and the kind of authors that you've actually brought to the forefront over the years, and the things that you've done. And I really think that this is great for our listeners. So for everybody out there listening, we're going to put a link to Dr. Shaw's website. And we're also going to put a link to waterslides website. And Bill if the listeners want to get the book. I know it's on Amazon. So we'll put a link to Amazon as well to pick up the book there. And if anybody has any questions about this, say probably go to the Dr. Shah website and type in email in and do a contact and we will get Dr. Shah on the show to actually speak with our listeners and do a blessing and a healing that bill is speaking about here. That would be wonderful. And Bill seriously. Thank you for taking this time to talk with our listeners. about the book is called Dr. and Master Shaw miracle soul healer by William Gladstone. There you go. Pick up a copy. Do that today. And if you have any other questions or contacts contest to contact us here at inside personal grow namaste to you, Bill.

William Gladstone
Thank you so much really enjoyed the interview look forward to talking with you again and getting some more of our wonderful authors on your show.

Greg Voisen
All right take care. Thank you.