Greg Voisen
Well, welcome back to Inside Personal Growth. This is Greg Voisen, host of Inside Personal Growth. And joining me from Savannah, Georgia is Ted Dennard. Did I say it? Right?

Ted Dennard
You know, we say dinner and then art either way.

Greg Voisen
Oh, okay. Good. So, I met Ted at the natural products West Expo in Anaheim. And many of my listeners know that I go there every year, because a whole segment of this show is on wellness. And it's on making the world a better place for the most part, by whatever all of us can do. And Ted is definitely an example of that. And, Ted, welcome to the show. Thanks for being on. Also, thanks for sending me some of your finest quality, honey. This is, if you're wondering why this isn't a wine bottle. That's because this honey is called a gold reserve honey. And when you go to the website to see how much it cost, you'll see why. So this is this is definitely and he and I will get into talking about that. He also makes a lot of other products. And when you go to the website, it's not all it's got a honey derivative in it. But the honey hot sauce is another one. And this one I thought was interesting, whipped honey with cinnamon. So Ted has found a way to really, you know, what we call spice up, honey. It's really quite unusual for all my listeners are listening. I'm going to say a little bit about you. If you notice, the name of the company is called Savannah bee. And it doesn't have the word honey in it because their mission really is about bees. He's celebrating his 20th year in the business. He's committing to bringing the customers the most delicious honey source from beekeepers around the world, we're going to talk about that, most of whom we know by name and these P keepers share a passion for saving the bees. And each are carefully tending the hives to promote healthy bee population and a better environment. He believes that our greatest impact is in education, we're going to talk about the bee cause project, which is provided 800 grants in schools across the country and beyond introducing children to the science of bees and giving them a hands on connection. And if you really want to watch a cool little video at his website, watch him when he takes the bees out to the school and puts them in his hands. And the teacher does the same thing. Very, very cool. And each jar of the honeybee powdered beauty products and cultivated vibe. We're working to save the bees. And he does have quite a variety of products which we're going to get into speaking about. Now, Ted, you said you're celebrating your 20th year in the business. And since you started the business, what really has changed in the world for beekeeping? And how have you really grown the business in spite of the mites in spite of the issues and the challenges that has been faced? We've all of us have heard about it. But you know what it hits the media and like most people, most people don't really know what's going on now. In other words, it's like, okay, the world was focused on all these bees dying from the mites. And now we're not hearing much of anything, but I know you're still being affected in ways is that correct?

Ted Dennard
That is correct. Yes. beekeepers, and they're and bees and therefore beekeepers are kind of been struggling and under duress for a long time. And I think when it was medium, top of mind, you know, you know, the bees are dying. It just made headlines, but what that's been happening for longer than those headlines, you know, we're celebrating it or lamenting, and I guess there's a better way of putting it. And we're still dealing with it. But But beekeepers have been and will continue to find a way to persevere and keep bees alive. And you know, there's a lot at stake.

Greg Voisen
There is and it's you know, it's I know the biggest challenge you had for a while really was the mites right? Is it yeah,

Ted Dennard
if you asked me what's the worst problem I think the mites are the root cause kind of if there's a pyramid of problems, they're kind of at the base and if you didn't have them I think the bees might could handle a lot of the other ones without collapsing and then but yet these mites are just yeah, they're terrible parasite largest parasite to host relationship in the animal kingdom.

Greg Voisen
Wow. And I think that so many of our listeners probably don't know much about that right they will. At the time, the news broke, they maybe weren't even paying attention to it or not. But you know, you've got an interesting story. I don't want to involve into that. You, your father on a piece of land, and you're involved with the bees since you were 14 years of age. And you did a really cool TED talk to, and you really have a love for the bees. And this older gentleman by the name of Roy Hightower says, hey, I want to put my bees on your property. Right. So it's kind of like you were leasing him space. And I don't even think you did that. You just trade it out to learn about the bees. Can you speak a little bit and talk about what some of the things you talked about that TED talk as well? Because obviously Hightower was the infusion in the start of all this, right?

Ted Dennard
Absolutely, really, I mean, I think if I can put it succinctly, I kind of the beehive is analogous to everything in my world, right? I'm like, all the way down the rabbit hole of honeybees. But the everything they do is just kind of one interaction at a time. They go to the flower, flower benefits, they benefit and they just repeat that. And just but through repetition, there's little x build up to this amazing thing. Like when we have visits over half a billion flowers in a year and basically keeps the flowering plant world healthy and, and therefore feeds the planet and I can keep waxing on forever. But Roy was that first interaction that first dominant, I guess, introduce me to the world of bees. And had he not done that I may never have gone down this this journey. And but I did you know, so he introduced me and I loved honey. And I don't know what made me so enthralled with and captivated with the different types of honey that the bees created from different types, different species of flowers. But I was I was all the way in, not so much in the beekeeping but into the honey and, and then I had a landlord in college that that taught me about the amazing facts. And then I joined the Peace Corps and they sent me to Jamaica to teach beekeeping. And so it just kept, you know, you know, I was my path kept my paving stones and my path kept getting laid before me. I had no idea where

Greg Voisen
no pun intended, but as beekeeping in I don't follow it, but I have a love for it. I don't know why either, I consume lots of honey, I'm always interested. Is it a dying breed?

Ted Dennard
Um, I would have said so 25 years ago, but there's been a huge resurgence in hobby beekeepers. On the one hand, which is great because they're not moving bees, they're just you typically just in their yard. And that's, I think that's really good for the bee population as well with the need for pollination growing so strong. The price that beekeepers get for moving their hive to a farmers orchard or field has gone up so high that it's now very profitable for someone to go into the commercial beekeeping business. So it's there's been a big resurgence in the last 15 years where I don't see it going. I mean, it's not going away, that's for sure.

Greg Voisen
Well, I think you bring up a point that again, many people don't know but I'm aware of like in California here in the mid part of our state is the biggest avocado and avocado, almond almonds, and there are guys who raise bees just to stick them out there in those almond orchards right. And they get paid handsomely, from the almond tree owners to actually bring their hives in and you're saying this is the commercial trade that you're making reference to?

Ted Dennard
Yes, it extends beyond the almonds the almonds are an early crop so basically in most parts of the country that are frozen and you're having to maybe feed your bees so they can stay warm and fed they get to move to California and pollinate the almonds and so they're making money but like you said good money yeah colony when they would only just sort of be doing nothing. And so that's a great start to the beekeeping year and some people they really don't need to do anything else except keep their bees alive for the rest of the year. And they didn't do it again. And I

Greg Voisen
watched a documentary about it. And some of these guys travel with these bees a very long distance to get to the almond trees in California. And it's on come across all the way from Colorado and different parts of this

Ted Dennard
here to East Coast. Yeah. Pretty much nearly every single commercial beehive leaves and goes to California literally. Yeah, every beehive. Well, that's

Greg Voisen
it. I mean, for those of you who aren't aware of this and you're listening as podcasts right now and you're thinking yourself, these guys will pick up and put them in their trucks and move them all the way over here to stick them out in the middle of the almond trees is just mind boggling to me now obviously when they're in these fields, you have pesticides you have climate change, you have all these other factors that are affecting this What's fragile ecosystem of the bees and what have you done to save the bees and manage the hives because all of these are factors climate you know pesticides you name it,

Ted Dennard
We look we all struggle with that I say we we've probably all whether we know it or not, individually are getting the same pesticides in us but the bees are sorted out good canary in the coal mine and they are you know, highly sensitive and affected by it. We, we do everything we can to keep our bees alive and thriving, and yet we still run up against problems. Again, there's mites, you can treat with mites, there's certain medicines, some are natural, some are less so but there's and you can mix it all up and have you know, very diversified means of kind of protecting them from the mites but um but ultimately you still have here and in Georgia, the mosquitoes can be so bad that they spray for mosquitoes with helicopters. You know that's it's just fallen on everybody and all the insects and this common indiscriminate killer. So yeah, we're up against a tremendous amount of obstacles,

Greg Voisen
but also as these as these areas like Savannah, Georgia places where I live even in San Diego you know, we've seen such tremendous growth in housing and we've seen changes in the actual you know, really when you look at the amount of flowering plants there are they've been reduced tremendously because of the industrialization of just these areas right and it kind of saddens me because I don't see as much ability for this pollination it the bird population is also an affected by this but are you mean are you in rural areas with most of these bees trying to find places where they can find flowers and play and nectar?

Ted Dennard
Yes. So a couple of a give two answers to that one is there are times that it is healthier for bees to be in a city let's just take New York for example. Tons of people tons of concrete but there's also a lot of planted you know, ornamental trees and flowers and bushes and, and the bees honestly, they can do better in a city than they like dude near a cornfield in the middle of the you know, no city in the middle of Iowa and I'm not picking on Iowa right but you know, if you have a mono crop, even if even if bees wanted to go to it if it's it only blooms for like so many weeks, right? If nine weeks and then it's done and then if there's nothing else growing they have nothing else to forage and feed and the diversity of flora that's in some of the cities can keep them going because there's a succession of blooms and so they are able to get nectar which is what they make honey from and then they get the pollen as well which is sort of their vitamins protein, or amino acids and everything so that's one answer that sometimes cities can be good. The other thing is yes, we do go to places that are just forest for the type of honey that we want to make. So the big bottle of gold reserve you picked up that spade on the Tupelo trees those are just starting to bloom right now and only in the rivers and swamps between Savannah and West Florida nowhere else in the world can you make the honey and you know if it's been windy and dry so if it's not over 80 degrees, humid days if it's too windy or too hot or too cold or too to anything, you might not make any and so and bees because they need to visit 2 million flowers to make one pound of honey you can't just have a few flowers you need to have literally a forest of that type of species of plant that you're trying to make honey from if you're going to make a single flower type honey and but if you time it right and weather cooperates you know you do have climate change which is major. And but if it can come together, you have strong bees and you know what you're doing you can really you can make some good honey and then then you can move those bees and it's not gonna Hurt him to the next forest that is going to bloom. And it's a different type of honey, but you can make another honey there and then you can move them again, you know, and just you're following so it's

Greg Voisen
diversified.

Ted Dennard
Yeah, you're

Greg Voisen
watching the life of a honeybees. worker bee is pretty short, six weeks, six weeks, and I'm sure many of my listeners know that but just to repeat six weeks isn't very long time the queen bee How long does she last? A lot. I

Ted Dennard
love that story. So, the Queen is born a worker bee. And so she's kind of like Cinderella, she's fed royal jelly, which is this substance the bees create from this gland on the back of their head, feed it to the queen, she can live for years. So 40 times longer, super fertile can lay 1000s of eggs a day, determine whether it's male or female. And it's a fascinating story. But yes, it really is. colony is the super organism, that's the entity. And so it's not the individual bee that propagates a species, it's when a hive splits and the Queen leaves would have the bees kind of like mitosis. And she's she goes and makes a new home and she leaves half the bees with a new queen to take over the whole time. And so that's how one hive becomes too. And that's

Greg Voisen
interesting, because it is, you know, Lucky want to study bees, you could go to his website, but there's plenty of references out on Google too much of this, but the reality it's a fascinating study of nature. And I think what you said a minute ago, is that, you know, at a very micro level, the way our environment has been going, the bees are one of the first to see it and be affected by it. And whether it's been too little water, not enough flowers, pesticides, this fragile ecosystem is so important. And I think that's why it's important for people to understand, kind of more about honeybees. And what is the correlation between that global warming, you know, what's going on here, the challenges that we're having. So that was one of the reasons I wanted to have you on the show, and you really pointed that out quite effectively. And I want to thank you for doing that. Anything more you want to say about that?

Ted Dennard
Um, no, no, I think that's right. I mean, look, the planet will still be here. But if we want to help the planet, the way that we inherited, you know, where you have healthy, healthy plant, we're all producing oxygen, sequestering co2 and producing food for the animals and us, you know, and stopping erosion, all that stuff. You need this, you know, this relationship between pollinators and flowering plants to be healthy. And,

Greg Voisen
You know, that's at the very, very base of what makes up this ecosystem. You know, and so people I know, they understand that, but they need to be reminded. And you know, one of the things your company does, as you said, you don't have honey in the name because it is about the bees. And you've added so many derivative products and I noticed that the website like lip balm, honey hand, so punny cream is a line of products. You have 16 retail, like you said, now 14 retail locations throughout the Southeast, and one all the way as far west as Sedona, Arizona, you tell us about the outgrowth of the business and all these products that you've kind of added to your line of products because it's normally you know, when you see a beekeeper and a guy selling honey, and you're a much bigger business than most all he or she is selling is honey, and in varieties of honey, you know, they don't have lip balm, and they don't have hand creams and they don't have any of this stuff. How did all that kind of happen? And you know, how did you finally end up getting this in the retail side?

Ted Dennard
Okay, that's a lot so initially, right I started out the same way I was. I was a beekeeper and love bees and I didn't really want to sell honey started selling a few jars of honey. And then it's not uncommon for like the beekeeper to make the honey and then the wife is and now you have plenty of women beekeepers, but sort of traditionally it was like the guy who would go out make the honey and then they bought all the honey and the wife would help put labels on and then she gets to beeswax and stir it up with some oils and make some SAVs and some lip balms and they'd sell that on the roadside stand in markets and have a family kind of business like that. And then and that's how I started to make lip balms and crock pots and candles using the beeswax and then that just grew over the years. And I ended up farming out the beekeeping, kind of early on, I guess. And so I was buying the type of honey I wanted from the region of the world really, that I wanted to get that honey from. And I really focused on expanding the business and the products. And so it was, you know, it seems like it happened like that we have 100 and something different skews. But most of it's it was a long, long process to get there on.

Greg Voisen
Well, you even have biscuit man. Well, we show that biscuit mix.

Ted Dennard
Yeah, in our stores we Kelly's hot little biscuits, that's a Charleston company. So we support a lot of different businesses. We have Potter's that make tea mugs for us and coffee cups. And we have, you know, Kelly's biscuits out of Charleston making a biscuit mix that we then resell in our stores. So that's where that comes from. And we love helping other businesses to grow. And, you know,

Greg Voisen
what I like about you is because I could tell that when I met you at natural products that you are kind of connect the dots kind of guy, in other words, you, you, you're a good businessman, but you're doing good with that. And you then said, hey look, I want to do something that I think and you've formed this nonprofit called B cause project. And I want you to tell us a bit about it to educational program for children, United States, Canada, Bahamas and Puerto Rico. And you've done a lot with this. And it's very apparent at the website, when you go to the website, there's many videos up there on the website about it. So tell our listeners about the bee cause project.

Ted Dennard
Um, so one of the ways I feel like you can make lasting change, and I think you kind of insinuated early on is through, you know, education or just raising awareness. So I think if you can expose anybody, kids or adults, to bees, it's this mean, it is like Alice in Wonderland, it's just so fascinating. And so it started by putting one educational glass behind inside of a school in Charleston. And then we and then this woman, Tammy Enright, who's now and has been the director of the because we, she wanted some in her kids school, so we got some more schools to do it. And then some in Savannah, and the kids and the teachers and the parents, and just even the community just got on board with it and learned so much and embraced it. So we so we had this idea, like if we could put us in 1000 schools, we could raise a whole generation that would understand love and protect the honeybee. And so that's what we set out to do. And Tammy get the credit for growing it to as many schools and so there's over 800 schools that have been given these beehive grants. And so it's, it's, it's making a big, big effort, you know, and that's, that will probably be the best legacy. And again, Tammy gets a ton of the credit. We still support it financially, as do some other people. little shout out the whole Kids Foundation for supporting them as well. Which is

Greg Voisen
continues on you know, I mean, I think you're supporting it financially. But the reality is, the impetus of it was kind of you and Tammy and Tammy carried the ball. And that's what good entrepreneurs do. You know, they support the people that can support them. And that's what I love about you. And that's what you're doing. And now you know, the other thing you do that I found interesting that maybe other beekeepers out there and people that manufacture honey would say, but you source it from all these other places. And that's a pretty interesting business model. What's the purpose for sourcing all these other places? Like, you know, you have lots of friends in the business, so you get their money. You get other places for hunting. And then so you now have all these resources to get honey Correct.

Ted Dennard
Oh, yeah. A very vast network of beekeepers. Pretty much around the world. I mean, we don't get honey from everywhere but I know a lot of these beekeepers from Big World beekeeping conventions and just networking and I've sort of been on this, this search for you know, the world's best honey for you. was a kid really? Since 1980. Here it is. Yeah. And honestly, it comes back to be right in my backyard. The tupelo honey and then the sour wood honey from the mountains of North Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina, that those are really arguably the two best phonies in the world.

Greg Voisen
Well, I will say I haven't opened this yet. See my listeners can see I'm saving this. This is almost like fine wine. You know, you can put it up in your cupboard and source it. But I am such a believer in this that I'm, I'm so thankful to have you on the show and just speak about this. But you know that gold reserve Honey, you've told a little bit about it. And why do you believe those Tupelo trees and now I think it's this one is this one the one that's too sour wood. And this is number 1512 of 3000 bottles. So you enter it even has a signature on it folks on the side it says Ted, you only bottled 3000 bottles of this,

Ted Dennard
We put 3000 on there because we thought we were going to do more this year, what it turned out, we only got three and one half barrels, which is a 55 gallon, you know food grade barrel. And you we would have needed six to make 3000 bottles. So we really are only going to have 1700 of these this year because it just out of 158 barrels a honey, we are only those three and a half made the cut the grade where we could I could feel good about selling it as a gold reserve.

Greg Voisen
And how many people are working in your honey business today that are helping you package on this, put it all together and get it out to the world?

Ted Dennard
Yeah, so it always blows me away. It's like really that many people work here. We have 50 people a little over 50 people that work in this warehouse, where we have our offices where you do all the stuff that our businesses do sales and accounting and marketing and you know, social media, all that stuff, customer service. But we also bottle all of the honey here. So we have guys bottling honey receiving barrels and shipments and sending off testing food safety people, we've got shipping people but yeah, so 50 Something people here are putting it all together. And then there's another 150 people working at those 14 retail stores that are you know, also we're retailing it and educating people as they come in and they get to

Greg Voisen
about 200 people total between units there at the plant. Correct and what's in the 14 stores. So you know, it's quite a bit you know, it's a big business. And I want to thank you for doing that. Because number one, you're helping the economy you're helping people make a living, you're doing it the right way you're giving back through the because project. Now what is in the future before we actually got on the air you were talking about the potential of someone maybe doing some work on Amazon or representing your products on Amazon. But what's the future for the business, the online business look like? And are there any new products that are coming out that you're developing that? I mean, heck, I've never seen anyone develop as many honey based products as you but you know, who knows, you might have some more up your sleeve.

Ted Dennard
Oh, we have a lot man. There's a good attorney around this list. On this board. We're actually working to try and focus in on fewer products so we're not coming out with so many. But ultimately the vision is our vision right as a healthy world where bees don't need saving, right that's the world that we see in the future that we want to try and initiate and our mission is selling these products to help us you know help save the bees help our efforts to save the bees so that's the end goal and there's lots of products and services that will roll up underneath that in the next hopefully decades. But right on right now we're coming there's a honey coffee a honey roasted coffee. Again, we partnered with Charleston coffee roaster and we've he's created this real proprietary way of roasting coffee with honey

Greg Voisen
That sounds good. It is really good coffee and

Ted Dennard
again same story from cooperative farmers that benefit I mean it's all really good high mountain stuff

Greg Voisen
too bad you can infuse matcha tea with honey because that is my favorite and you know it's one of those things where you either put the honey in the tea and I think probably of all the tea drinkers which I am I don't drink coffee. That's probably why my love for tea because I've always ever only sweetened it with that and it is matcha tea and it is always sweetened with honey.

Ted Dennard
Awesome. So we've got Yeah, honey roasted coffee. We have actually a honey barbecue sauce. Three different versions.

Greg Voisen
That's two honey pots are

Ted Dennard
honey pots off. We have a honey hot sauce. We have a hot honey which is this habanero oil infused honey. That's all honey that the hot sauce is half honey with vinegar and Scotsman and pepper mash and all kinds of stuff. Um, but yeah, the main things right now are the honey roasted coffee in this in these honey barbecue sauces that are coming out

Greg Voisen
well you're quite inventive and you're quite creative and I want to say for my listeners, honey hot sauce, I had never seen it until I went by his booth. That was the first time I saw honey hot sauce. Now I haven't tried it yet, but I will. And as I said also this whipped honey was cinnamon, he has found different ways to do that. And he also sells honeycomb. So if you go on the website, you can buy honeycomb. And for those of you who are kind of more purist, you would cut off a piece of that. What I've found from honeycomb is it's a little more waxy especially in how you're using it any tricks there.

Ted Dennard
You know, you don't want to put it in your hot tea because it melts the wax and then the wax kind of

Greg Voisen
it ends up on the top.

Ted Dennard
Yeah. But other than that if you eat it with those hot biscuits and fresh breads, and that's an easy way we eat it with apples Believe it or not, and cheese and charcuterie and stuff so a honeycomb really makes all of that better. It's really and then that cinnamon honey, you if you take some slices of apples and dip in that cinnamon, honey, it is so good. And then I also will get a spoon and just get fill the spoon up with that cinnamon honey and then get almonds and just kind of dredge it through the spoon as I'm eat like eaten these almonds. It's like great, trust me. It's a and it's good. So cinnamon is a superfood honey is too so let's

Greg Voisen
talk about it. I mean, doctors will tell you and this is my last question to kind of wrap this up with you. But you know, you're going to talk about the health benefits of honey, we've all you know, over years people set out the health benefits. Can you tell us why honey is a good anti-inflammatory, anti-toxic anti. I gotta say this right. And antibacterial agent. But the thing is, is honey is and I have nothing against it. Maybe I consume a little bit too much sugar, I think for the diabetics out there. But I guess if you're going to consume any sugar, you'd probably be better off consuming it in the form of honey than you would in brown sugar or white sugar. So speak with our listeners about these benefits.

Ted Dennard
Yeah, I love that. All right, so I'll start with the antibacterial part. Well, part of it is an amethyst or bear biologist or anything but the you know, the sugars will actually kill the bacteria because in the same way that salt might. So bacteria really just can't grow in honey, which is which is makes it antibacterial. There's also peroxides and honey, that when it contacts your skin, these natural peroxides are produced. So it makes a perfect wound healer. And I mean, I'm telling you, it's the only thing that's ever been on my kids band aids and my band aids and honey is honey,

Greg Voisen
right. And I have a friend who actually made band aids with honey and them. And he actually marketed them. And they were I don't remember what they were called. But it was like a honey. And I thought he was absolutely crazy. But I still have some of the band aids here. And I use them. And it's amazing how quickly it healed the wound.

Ted Dennard
Yeah, yeah, you don't scar Eric go on and on. But yeah, so honey is great for antibacterial properties. And then both for the anti-inflammatory and the antioxidant parts is the enzymes in the honey and this like the phenolic acids in it. That will inhibit like the inflammatory response. But it also stimulates these anti these inflammatory mediators. So they're going to help both prevent it. And then also if it happens, if you already have inflammation, it'll help mitigate it so that it's really good for inflammation and antioxidant activity is kind of similar. That though enzymes and phenolic acid are going to help protect the cells from damage due to their environmental damage and oxidative stresses and things like that. That can end up leading to cancer and other diseases. So you know, they beekeepers are supposed to live I've heard you know, they live longer than any other profession. And they attribute that to the raw honey and pollens and stuff that beekeepers consume. A lot of times the beekeepers you know they strike they purify and clean up the honey for their customer but they eat all the other stuff. So they're getting like the honey Coban they're getting their real raw, honey interesting, filled with enzymes. And let me add this other thing is that the bees are so studied, you know, and they're learning stuff all the time. But not that long ago, maybe 10 years ago, they've done some studies and found that in the little honey stomach where bees carry nectar, it's not their digestive stone, pre stomach. There's 14, probiotic bacteria that can live for a while in nectar and fresh honey, they help stop the nectar from fermenting. But they had to come up with names for these new bacteria. But those might be really good for gut health, perhaps, you know, this is something new, but fresh honey could be better for you than honey that's been around for, you know, six months or something. I think after two months, the sugars and stuff even in these back to the sugar resistant bacteria, and the bacteria ended up dying off.

Greg Voisen
You know, it's always interesting to speak with somebody who's has the knowledge that you do as a beekeeper. And I think for all my listeners, you know, go study if you need to, the medicinal effects. So Honey, honey has been around forever and ever and ever. I've watched documentaries about people in various places who were, you know, when all else failed the they at least had honey to sell, I forget the what that video was, and I watched but I remember some older woman up in the area. And the only way she ultimately survived was Burma honeybees. And it was it really is something when you look at eons all the way back to the beginning of time, it seems like people have been harvesting, I wouldn't say it's the oldest crop, but it's gotta be one of the oldest crops. And when I say crop, maybe I'm using the wrong term. But these hives? Well, Ted, it's been an honor actually having you on the show, and you sharing this with our listeners. And again, for my listeners, you know, go to Savannah b.com. That’s where you want to go there, you can access all of the products that we just talked about. And that we showed, including this, the private reserves up there. And all the other products. And Ted anything you want to leave with the listeners before we kind of truncate this interview, I, you know,

Ted Dennard
We wholesale all over the nations in a lot of storage, like your Albertsons has our honeycomb in it in Southern California. It's not, you know, they people don't carry everything but yeah, we have a pretty good little business, wholesale business. So be on the lookout,

Greg Voisen
I'm you're out there, they can get it, they can get at it. I think you told me lazy acres does. Are they carrying it? There's,

Ted Dennard
I don't there's 1000s of them. I'm not sure it's like the acres out. But if I said you

Greg Voisen
know what, if you can't get it, and you know, all you got to do is go to Savannah b.com and order it and they'll ship it to you. Right. And I will say their shipping is very quick. They may have it quite as fast as Amazon but it's quick. Definitely, definitely go to the website. And he said shortly he'll be back again on Amazon through seller. So but for now just go to Savannah b.com And order yourself some and test it out. See what you think because this Learn

Ted Dennard
I will so I believe you with this that through all this business I was a religion major and so I didn't study business come along or anything. And I see business maybe a little differently, but the beat so I see a beehive business model as one where everybody wins, you know, so in the same way that a beehive operates. And so I think if your customer wins, and you as the business win, and your employees win and the environment wins, and then it's going to be sustainable and successful, maybe more so than then some that are that are not like mutually beneficial like a beehive bees of any of our 100 and some million years and so they basically invented sustainability through partner with partnering with the flowering plant. So I would just encourage everybody to try and you know, live like the bees do.

Greg Voisen
Well, you know, that background in studying religion and spirituality, you know, my master's degree is in spiritual psychology and I can tell that about you. You know, being a compassionate person. And being a person that loves what you do, I can tell that. And again, what happens is if you can live in harmony, which is what you're basically doing, you know, the whole bee population, if you really look at how they work, and if you've ever seen documentaries, they really work in harmony to get the honeycomb crew needed, and it is an amazing thing, isn't it?

Ted Dennard
There's a you know, Pliny the Elder, we quote this that sometimes by the nature in her entirety is nowhere more seen than in her smallest creatures. And I feel like these bees are like windows and the whole world of nature. Yeah, for me they

Greg Voisen
They definitely are and Savannah bee is helping keep that alive. Go support Savannah bee go the bee cause and Ted, Blessings to you. Thank you, man for being on your show in spending some time with me. I really appreciate your staff and us sending out the product. And thank you for your donation and compassionate communications as well. I'm going to reciprocate to Savannah B.

Ted Dennard
All right. Hey, you're awesome. Very excited. Great speaking with you and I hope we'll see you again soon.