with Yesenia Sevilla
May 12, 2026
Inside Personal Growth
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In this podcast, Greg welcomes back Yosi Amram, PhD, a licensed clinical psychologist, CEO leadership coach, and award-winning author whose background spans from an elite Israeli military sergeant major to an MIT and Harvard-educated tech CEO. His life took a radical, life-altering turn on a massage table when, after leading two companies through successful IPOs, he experienced a spontaneous spiritual awakening that "blew a fuze" in his mind. This traumatic catalyst—which initially led to him being pushed out of his own organization—inspired Yosi to pioneer research into Spiritual Intelligence (SI).
He views SI as the critical missing piece for leaders who have conquered the moon and the genome but still face soaring rates of anxiety, loneliness, and polarization. This isn't about escaping to a cave in India; it is a "middle way" where the divine meets the boardroom to reveal spiritual sparks in everything we do. Yosi breaks down his research-backed framework—cited over 1,000 times—to show how "ego-looseness" and intuitive leadership are powerful drivers of massive financial performance and collective well-being.
For decades, the corporate world relied solely on IQ to measure potential. Later, Emotional Intelligence (EQ) taught us to manage our emotional resources. However, Yosi Amram, PhD argues that Spiritual Intelligence is the final frontier. SI is the ability to draw on, cultivate, and embody spiritual resources—such as purpose, service, and integrity—to enhance our daily lives and well-being.
The results are not just philosophical; they are measurable. Research shows that leaders with high spiritual intelligence produce better financial results for their business units, and banks with higher SI among employees see a better return on assets. Furthermore, inspired employees are twice as productive as those who are merely satisfied with their jobs.
Through research interviewing 71 teachers across the world's major traditions, Yosi identified universal virtues that cluster into seven domains:
One of the most compelling parts of Yosi's story is the role of struggle. He points to historical giants like Lincoln, Gandhi, and MLK, who all experienced profound struggles. Yosi believes that "metal is forged in the heat". When a leader’s ego is "cracked" by failure, they have the opportunity to move from being driven by external markers like fame and status to being driven by internal integrity.
You don't need a spontaneous awakening to develop these skills. Yosi Amram, PhD suggests a practical, "muscle-building" approach to spiritual intelligence:
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