with Dr. Sheila Gujrathi
May 12, 2026
Inside Personal Growth
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In this powerful episode ofInside Personal Growth, Greg Voisen explores the landscape of the "spiritual but not religious" with Kris to unpack his latest book, Spiritually Homeless. If you’ve ever felt like you’ve let go of one trapeze bar but haven't yet reached the next, this conversation is for you.
Why do so many people find themselves drifting away from traditional pews? According to Kris Girrell, it’s often because our natural human development forces us out of dualistic thinking.
When an institution insists on "command and control" through fixed doctrine, the maturing soul often feels forced to leave in order to keep growing.
"Most contemporary religions are still stuck in a sense of dualism... But as life gets more complex, the questions we ask get more complex. We need an emergence of the soul, not just an adherence to the rules." — Kris Girrell,
The transition from religious certainty to spiritual curiosity is rarely easy. In Spiritually Homeless, Kris describes the Dark Night of the Soul not as a punishment, but as a necessary purification. It is the process of burning away:
If you find yourself in this "homeless" state, Kris suggests that the goal isn't necessarily to find a new building to sit in, but to find a new way of being:
Ready to explore the space between religion and true spiritual emergence?
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