Greg Voisen
Welcome back to Inside Personal Growth. This is Greg Voisen, the host of Inside Personal Growth. And joining me on the other side of the camera, Merrie Reagan, move your head over here so people can see you for the video. We have her book Life Flashes: A Memoir, Merrie H. Reagan. And you can get to her website the same way. It's m-e-r-r-i-e-h-r-e-a-g-a-n and that's dot com. There, you can learn more about her. Her book, how she brought this together. There's some great videos there. There's interviews there, I welcome you all because a memoir is a very personal thing. And Merrie, I just want to start off this morning by letting the listeners know a bit about you. And also kind of a bit about this book. Um, you're a former educational tutor, small business owner and part time freelance news and feature article writer. She resides in the state of Massachusetts, she savers reading, writing, ballroom dancing, singing, homemaking, and yard work. And she watches a variety of television shows, but this memoir is really moving, especially how you've weaved it together, you know, I'm gonna let the listeners know that you started writing this in January of 2007. And finished it and February of 2021. And you didn't really think about making it into a book until 2010. So we're going to start off, Mary because I think when someone writes a memoir, at least you didn't start off doing it, it was kind of like a journal. And you let the people get exposed to your life. You really have a mission to teach people about what they can learn from their own life flashes that happened to them. And you start the book off with being in a pretty dark place personally. You had been taking antidepressants for two years. You had an encounter at that point, with a supernatural being you said, and I love this spiritual part. Can you tell the story and tell the listeners what happened that day for you?

Merrie H. Reagan
Yes, I was living. I was living in a group home at the time. I was very ill. I've been emotionally ill for a number of years. And I woke up on this January morning, I dress very lightly, I went outside, it was about 35 degrees. And I began walking down a sidewalk and I and I I was feeling that I I don't I didn't know how much longer I could go on with, with a feeling the sense of hopelessness that I did. And I'm, I remember, is all of a sudden, non-verbally saying, No, I don't. And what I what I realized, even like, not even until recently that that was the first time that God was speaking to me, I was answering God because God had asked me, this is the way you want life to end for you. And I said, No, I don't. So faced with mortality and life ending and not, you know, not wanting life to end in hopelessness. I began I saw that God was there a God was real, that God was listening to me. And I began talking with God about why I had been felt longtime hopelessness and about things that I had done that I felt that were unforgivable. And what

Greg Voisen
do you what do you attribute that hopelessness to I mean, up to that point in your life, obviously, that was where you kind of started this off. But what were the incidences that you maybe didn't write about that created that feeling of hopelessness and despair and depression, leading up to that to where you encountered? You say, a supernatural being God, people can call it whatever they want. But the reality is, you were using your intuition to connect to a higher source that was talking to you saying, This isn't the time to end your life like this. Right?

Merrie H. Reagan
Well, I was being given a choice. And very, very, very good question that you asked because I can I can, thankfully summarize it very easily. The reason what led me to being where I was, is that God was on the back of spiritual high power God or however what however, one defines trans Senate was on the back burner of life. For me. What was on the front burner was what people thought of me. What what size house I was living in? Marital status, financial status, all those things were in the front of my thinking and feeling. So there when this is the case, there is no there isn't a way to be content, your content, you can be happy for moments. Oh, I bought a new car and met somebody new. You know, found a new place to live. But you won't you will not? You cannot it's not possible. 100% sure to experience true contentment without face no matter.

Greg Voisen
Oh, yes. It's fleeting. Our listeners are huge spiritual and personal growth. I wouldn't call them devotees, you know, they're all eager to learn about these things and learn about people's experiences. And you know, you wrote this memoir, you mentioned that many cases. And I remember hearing this on the video that you did in the library session, you said, you felt like electricity was coming through your hands. You start in 2007. But as we said, You didn't decide to turn in a book until 2010. Why was the creation of this book, so cathartic for you? First part of the question? And also, why did you find what you found writing this way? How allowed you to work through these dark events in your life? Because we all know, journaling can be extremely cathartic. Writing can be extremely cathartic. I remember being in my psychology class, and they asked us to write about challenges we had and then go take it and burn it and fireplace. Like you're burning up an old memory or a bad memory. How did you come about all of this? Because I found it quite interesting.

Merrie H. Reagan
Well, I Well, what I've what I've come to appreciate yours is again, the world teaches you success is good, failures, bad choices, good. Sorrows, bad, not true. They're all they're all experiences that are part of the human journey. And so again, once you prioritize one over the other, that's what sets you up for these high highs and lows of mood. It's all part of our it's all part of the journey. So it enabled me writing the book enabled me to chronicle the highs, you know, the just chronicle the journey, and also to, to chronicle it with fellow human beings, who are, who are from various walks of life, who are also being influenced by past current and yet to come events, we're all we're all very similar. And that's why I included people who, you know, national, local, personal and animal stickers I didn't set out to include any of them. It was where I the meeting these people, everyone, and to this day, it's it's where we are led, I don't I don't choose it. Right. And so

Greg Voisen
what did what did you find? What did you find? Pardon me? Very, but what have you found, including your faith in God, including your faith in a higher power that has allowed you to better modulate these highs and lows to live a life of much more? And that's going to be my next question around between happiness and contentment. I mean, you mentioned that these big highs and lows that you used to have in life. Tell us the differences between happiness and contentment. And what is it? What do we need to do to become more content within ourselves? Because you know, the job is really an inside job. It always is. Right? And no one I always tell my listeners, and they've heard this from me before. If you're expecting somebody else, or some thing to make you happy, you're kidding yourself. Because that's never whether you're in a marriage, or you're in a romantic relationship, or you buy yourself a new car, or you fill your bank account with money. None of that in of itself makes you happy. But I do know because we have a lot of Eastern philosophy people that listen to this show that certain practices in Buddhism and meditation, yoga, contemplation have all been ways for people to find salience. And to be able to live better with this Did you find anything like that on your journey?

Merrie H. Reagan
Oh, yeah, prayer is prayer is paramount I, I do some formal prayer. But then I just I talk with God throughout throughout the day, all day and all night. I. And I also know, you know, I've begun, we began attending, you know, attending church services. And but I also what I also, in some ways I respect that the faith within me is broken within a million pieces, there are things that are still very unresolved for me. And I know, but the good thing is that I know that I'm trusting that they can be resolved, instead of saying, Oh, it's just the way it is, I can't change. And that there are people out there that it's that if I try, if I attempt to do it on my own, I will go nowhere, by being on your own is not being independent. It's being you know, being on your own too much. Being too solitary.

Greg Voisen
Have you always been tired? Have you always been kind of a loner? And weird somewhat? Yeah, yeah. Where did you

Merrie H. Reagan
but I think, you know, being being, you know, what I'm finding again, being solitary and being social are very similar. When you're alone, I'm, I'm interacting all day with people, I'm just entirely interacting with them. In a way, it's different. But but similar, it's not the same, but similar with socializing with them. So and they're both. You know, they're both they're not the same, but they're very similar. So and I, I find that once that I realized that it's, it's eases the ability of me to be social with people. I'm not, you know, most people in general, people are one or are, or not one or the other, were a combination of both. That's how we were made. Right. So in

Greg Voisen
my view, find communities of support through the things that you do, like, you may use your church, or other outside

Merrie H. Reagan
act, I'm, I'm, I'm a ballroom dancer, I'm, I just joined a singing group. And I mean, we're in community with people and what I mean, I go for walks in the woods, I see people there, I don't confine it. I don't confine community to one group of people. And I also accept that people. We all, there's no such thing as the one except for the, for God, or the transcendent being, because we all wake up we meet, whether we leave the house or not, we meet people, every day, we bond, whether we live in the same house with that person or not, as I said, person or not. And then we move on to the next person, is that a reason for us to disregard the boundary boundaries of any relationship? No, it's not. But it is a reason for us to respect that. People, all relationships are precious, they're all limited, they all end on, you know, at some point on Earth, as well as when we die, and then they all endure. So that was, you know, I was growing up that idea of the one was so was really embedded within me for a long time. And now, as I've, in the last, you know, dozen or so years, that I've let it go, it's very free. Just as the idea of you know, religion in the early 70s and 60s, it was like, Ah, it's a correct, I don't want to do that. I don't want to be punished. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm self sufficient. I can, you know, and what I realized was, that was becoming more and more isolated, and it took, you know, decades, but but then I realized what we reconnecting with God that actually, we connected with God, or transcendence or high power, is what enables you to be fully free. I feel a sense of independence. Now, having reconnected with God through dance, to singing through church and others, and you know, everything I do, that I'm really

Greg Voisen
independent, you're doing. You're doing activities that are bringing joy to you and to your heart. I mean, I think that's the most important thing. And you know, one of the things that brings everybody that I know of, because I have two little dogs are animals, and animals always bring us joy, especially if you're an animal lover, and you had a special relationship with your dog Jarrah. And on August 31 2015. You guys were walking in the woods, and there was this river going by, and then afterwards he kind of got lost and somebody fell On dim, can you explain what happened and why you believe another miracle happened in your life because actually, from the way you wrote that and told that story, that was definitely a miracle.

Merrie H. Reagan
I'm glad to see it as such, because it is. And it's also helped me to appreciate that miracles happen every day. But they happen in very small, you know, that's like one of the that's, that's, that's a large miracle. But miracles happen every day. In small medium, I would say that was an extra large, but the small, medium, large and extra large. And so it just enabled me to appreciate and to see,

Greg Voisen
to see when it was a warm day and your dog jumped in the water. Right?

Merrie H. Reagan
He jumped? He jumped in. He

Greg Voisen
got hot in the current. Correct. And then these guys with a boat came along. But we

Merrie H. Reagan
just didn't it wasn't quite it wasn't quite as romantic is that you got you know, he got he got he got caught in the you got caught in the cart. I mean, and I mean, but now there's no there's no bolt in sight. And he's being you know, he's being pulled, you know, pulled by the current down the road, I'm standing on the edge. And my heart is, you know, being feels as though my heart's been ripped out on my soul. And all I could do I want to jump in and save him. But I realized I don't there isn't sufficient strength in me to swim to him and save him. And I call out to him. I say Jorah Jorah. And, and then all of a sudden, I said he's gone. He's gone. I'm like, he's, he's gone. I've lost him. And then I hear a voice that says to me, don't be afraid. I'm here. Within seconds, a boat. With two people in the boat. I think it was a small boat. motorboat comes around the bend. And I see the boat. And they move to our door. And I said, they don't know what's going on. They the woman in the boat. It's a man and a lady, the woman the man staring at the ladies in the bow. And she says do you want help? And I said yes. And she says, So then they keep going and they pass your I'm like what the heck? You know, I'm thinking oh my gosh, he's he's, you know, they've abandoned me and I'm losing and losing Jorah so all of a sudden she says do you want help? Again? She says you want hell I say yes. When I didn't realize at the time that they were probably strategizing a way to to guide your to shore because if they pulled a 7570 pound soaking wet dog into the small boat motorboat it probably would have capsized the boat. So anyway, what they do is they go over to draw and they they, you know, they they cradle them with the boat. And then they move the boat toward the shore shore. And as he's he's and as he's coming out of the water. The lady in the in the boat says here's a bottle of water, he might be thirsty. So we're walking, so then we're you know, I hug him and kiss him and I'm so I'm profoundly grateful. And then we're walking back toward the car, and absentmindedly I, you know, I I'm not thinking about him for a few minutes, and he's but he was the one or two he was a wanderer. Anyway, all sudden, I can't find him again. So this lady comes along with her two children, and she says, What, what's happened? And I explained to her what happens and we're not leaving you until we find that dog. I was stunned. So that we all walk together and we walk through the woods back to the car, we can't find him. And, you know, and we're just about to be at the car and he's juror is standing in front of the car. Yeah.

Greg Voisen
Yeah, I remember that story. Yeah. Well, you know, when we have animals in our lives, and they mean so much to us, they mean, as much as people. You know, I always tell people that, you know, they're just when a dog passes, it's like, you've lost your best friend in your best lover and your best everything because they're just, you know, their unconditional love. So that's the key. You know, and well, I

Merrie H. Reagan
think they're, I think that you know, no dogs ever going to send a man to the moon. Right however, but there is a button. There is a there evolved, animals are evolved in ways that people aren't ever going to be. I won't ever know love the way I did with Jura again I will never know what the way I do when I see a bird. You know outside a birds chirping on trees when it's 20 degrees. And if there's snow on the tree lambs and birds are on. I want to ever know love like that again. Yeah, yeah, it's

Greg Voisen
true. You know, I

Merrie H. Reagan
do I have I have not seen the birds but well, but it's it's very, it's wondrous wonder slough. Yeah, they

Greg Voisen
Oh, you have a very fondness as well.

Merrie H. Reagan
How old are your dogs?

Greg Voisen
eight and three, eight and three. Are you there? Are you there?

Merrie H. Reagan
Are we there?

Greg Voisen
Yeah, I'm here. What happened? I don't know.

Merrie H. Reagan
What, how old are you? Oh, okay. How old are your dogs?

Greg Voisen
The dogs are eight and three. Can you hear me?

Merrie H. Reagan
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Greg Voisen
So I was gonna

Merrie H. Reagan
receive a message that were.

Greg Voisen
Yeah, they were a very huge speak about this author, David McCullough. And then I looked him up on the internet, and quite a prolific writer. And he wrote the book of the Wright Brothers, when you mentioned that he also wrote you a letter. Can you tell the story about the letter he sent to you also the spiritual experience you had when you went to his home, after he passed away, and heard a voice that tells you to look for the people that passed in your life in your heart, because you were grieving? So much. And so you had to what I would call kind of epiphanies or spiritual experiences. One wish you had this great letter, this person encouraged you to finish your book. And secondly, this is a man passes away. And you were very close, in, in a sense, and you went to his house, and then you get this message, this huge spiritual message. When you speak about what?

Merrie H. Reagan
Yes. I wrote, I wrote a letter to David McCullough and I, because I, he had just moved to the, to the next town, he and his family were building a house in the next town, and they had finished building it. And he moved there. And I thought, I want to connect with him. And he and I had read this, read this book, the Wright brothers, and I really liked it. And so I thought, maybe he'll comment on a few. And give me advice on a few chapters of life. Flash is a memoir. So I wrote to him, but I, I did not think he would write me back. He was in his 80s, he was writing another book, I had never met him. You know, I just said, you know, and then a month later, two days before Christmas, he sends me a letter. He says I couldn't and which was on a standard typewriter, which he used for, like 60 years. And, and he said, I couldn't on, you know, on on letterhead stationery, and he said, I couldn't let this all year and was was saying how much waiting how much I enjoyed reading your letter and looking at the chapters of your book. And he later said that. He said, as a as a history, he said, he encouraged me to finish the diary, and the book, and he said, as a historian and a biographer, and an author, I depend upon people's diaries, the diaries of people, and letters, and they're not writing them anymore. So he that I found it, you know, and I thought, well, maybe this is, and I think the diary form enables you to enable me to write from the heart and from the soul. As as Anne Frank, I mean, Anne Frank wrote a diary and her, I just found that I found that format very, very appealing. And I honestly, you know, I to answer a question that you asked me earlier, I I don't fully know why I wrote started writing the book. I don't fully I don't fully know why. I started writing a diary. I don't fully know why I decided to turn you know, to turn into a book. I don't know. And like, that's one of the one of the foundations of faith is accepting uncertainty. And I don't have to know right, and I don't have to get in sometimes I don't, you know, there's times when I don't, I don't like it. I don't like what's gone. I'll say God, you know, I really, I'm not happy with you today. I don't like this and I don't you know, I don't like what's going on. I mean, God says, Cool. As long as you trust me, we're good to go. You don't have to, you know, you don't have to like what what's going on? I do love God. Uh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So I love, I love that there's that freedom to say, you know, I don't like it. You don't have to like it. But I do. But I do trust. And I think that that's part of the reason why I'm I'm, you know, there are things that I've, you know, there's things that I've wanted to happen for. For decades that haven't happened. But I, but I trust that there's a reason why, and I don't have to, I don't have to like it. I don't have to understand it. But I do trust. And I believe that God knows me in ways far beyond the way I know, self or others. So I trust that and that gives me a lot of a lot of contentment.

Greg Voisen
Well, it's always good to have a spiritual belief. I don't think people necessarily have to be religious. But it's so important to follow something where you believe in something greater than yourself. Because so much comes from that. It's almost like, if you're giving to others, the experience that you get, because when you're all consumed with yourself, and you have no way to allow yourself to give beyond yourself, you're literally an emotional wreck most of the time, because the world is more than just you and why don't you take the opportunity to share your blessings with other people. That's what I tell people. That's the reason for my nonprofit and working with the homeless, like you have done.

Merrie H. Reagan
And you know, I want to just say one thing, just to uphold what you just said, very simply. It regarding contentment, if it's all about you, or if it's all about or if it's all about others, you're not ever going to be content, if it's all about high power of God, it includes everything includes you and everyone around you. Welcome to the world of contentment. Yeah,

Greg Voisen
I tell people that I what you just said is so true. But to find something that you're passionate about, you know, have a purpose in life. Be curious, define your goals, that doesn't mean you're always going to achieve them exactly the way you think. Because they don't always come that way. You There are twists and turns. And that's, you know, that's the cool part about having a faith in something, knowing that it's still working in your behalf, meaning God is there for you or a higher being. And I want to come to this point in the book where Jarrah died. And it was extremely traumatic for you Jura. And you spoke about a dream you had where Jura spoke with you and I remember you speaking about this when you were in the library video, that you had this visit in your dream, and it was so real. It was like you were holding his forever, and you could feel him and you could you know, it was a sense of, of Oh, wow, not going to wake up right. But this was such a real dream. And I know people from these totally realistic dreams. Can you tell the listeners about the experience and why you felt that it was so real? Meaning? I mean, I know you expressed yourself as being the most real thing. It was like he was there talking to you.

Merrie H. Reagan
It was was, and I think that God was speaking to me in that, that dream. And, you know, respectfully, I wouldn't say that. When Jorah died. It was traumatic. It was it was it was heartbreaking. But on the other hand, it was such an honor to know and love Jura, he was like, he reminded me losing him was reminded me of losing a beloved King, who subjects love and adored him, you know, and he taught me about acceptance of uncertainty and quiet perseverance and humility in a way that I in a different way than I had ever known before. So after he, after he died, he was almost 17 years old when he died. i One day I saw him in the kitchen. And I said, You came back? And he said, Yes, but I can only be here for a few minutes. So I put my arms around him, these arms around him and I could feel the fur is far on him. And I could feel the blood running through his veins. I felt what it was like I kissed him on the nose and it felt just like it did want to kiss him on the nose. And then all sudden, he was gone and I woke up and I realized I had been dreaming So I was bereft because I said Jura. Why did you why did you come back to me, only to leave me all over again. So a few weeks later, I had I had another dream. And it was about these two, two men who are walking along the two people who are walking that love Jesus. And, and he after he had been died, and brutally treatment, and they're grieving the loss of him. And so, in spirit, in spirit, Jesus who has died comes along beside them. And he says, oh, what's going on? And they're like, What do you mean, what's going on? Don't you know what happened? And so he, he go, walks along with them. And then later on in the day, I won't, I won't, you know, I want you. But later on, they realize it is Jesus, and then he's with them. And then he loves them. And so when I believe that God was saying to me, and he's with them, you know, he remains with them for a long while, and so in spirit. And so what I believe that God was saying to me, through Jura was that I love you, I didn't leave you. The way we should we express love for one another has changed. That's all.

Greg Voisen
Yeah, that's a great story. And I love that story. Many do

Merrie H. Reagan
you get over, you get over. You know, and it's it helped me with grieving my parents, and it helped me. You know, it helped me with grieving my with losing my parents. And it also, I mean, David McCullough, after you asked me about that I didn't fully answer it. I went over to his I drove over to his house, and I sat outside the house, which is, which is what I did one day, a few years after my parents died, and our house had been sold, and somebody else was living there. And I thought, oh, my gosh, you know, you're not, you're not ever gonna see you again, it's all gone. And so I believe that what God was saying to me, then is that you're looking for them in the wrong place. They're in your heart, they're in your soul. Right? That's where they are. And that's where all relationships primarily begin continuing. And

Greg Voisen
there are good points. And, and I want to tell people, the life flashes, here's a copy of the book, you should go get this on Amazon. And I have just two last questions for you. Right, as if any of our listeners is in the interest of writing a memoir? What advice did you would you have for them? And why do you believe that this journey through all these life flashes has been so cathartic and healing for you?

Merrie H. Reagan
Well, first of all, as far as you know, as far as writing a memoir, writing anything, I think, three characteristics that were developed within me, character building qualities that were developed the dog within me, which are important for anybody, including writers is discipline, determination, and devotion, discipline, because it's important, which I used to think as a young person, oh, that's routine that's monotonous is boring. But now I see discipline as a form of love. And with your discipline, you set aside time to be with your beloved, be with a beloved or you know, do writing every day, it's different for every writer that's between your writer and, and the creator. But you do you do that you're responsible, you accept responsibility for what you write, you, you, you, you work with making writing that is that is detached, not overly focused on potential readers, or book subjects or self. So there's a sense of there's one of the things that somebody said about right being a writer is that you one of the joys of being a writer is to get to look at your life all over again, you get to look at it somewhat of it from a distance. And that's what you want to do. So that you don't swallow the reader into what you're going through, you give them a chance to look at it from somewhat of a distance. And so they can, they can assimilate it into what they're, you know, what their experience and make choices. And then also to you review, what you write on a regular basis, there were things that I wrote in the book, and I look at them, I say, Yeah, that's true. That's good. So I go back a month later, and I'd say, Yeah, that's true. That's good. And I'd say, don't put it in the book. It's not appropriate. Again, you're developing a relationship. You know, you're in relation as a writer, you're in relationship, not only with the readers, but also your book subjects and it's very important to be respectful of the book subjects. And also to set limits with the reading audience, they really don't have to know it all, they don't really want to know it all. They just want to know, the essential lessons that are important, you know, essential details and the lessons that are important.

Greg Voisen
You can you can learn how to gracefully edit. And I would say that's probably what you did. Right? You know, and if you were to leave our listeners with three important bits of advice about life, love, success or failure, and learning to be okay with themselves. What would you tell them? Because your book is filled with all kinds of life lashes around love, life success, failure, and really learning to just the big one is to be okay with me.

Merrie H. Reagan
Well, I think, again, put God on the front burner, if you're okay. If your goal is to be, essentially to be okay with me, you're not going to be okay. If your goal essentially is to be okay, to be at peace with God, you will be at peace not only with God, but with everybody around you, and you'll be at peace with yourself. Secondly, do what you love, not what you think you're supposed to do that, that what you're supposed to do, is not ever going to lead you into contentment. Third, except I would say except conflict, loss and waiting is natural parts of living, I've found that one finds it increasingly eat, easy to navigate life When one accepts conflict, loss and waiting as their natural parts of living. They're all leaving you to where you're going. And finally, finally, we none of us are given what we can't handle. And if you don't believe this, just look around you at what other people are going through. I see people every day that are going through things. And I observed what they're going through when I say I couldn't go through that for five minutes. So that says to me that we're not given what we can't handle. And that's all you know, there's a way to move to anything.

Greg Voisen
Well, I want to tell our listeners that your relationship with David McCullough ended up with and I'm gonna say a testimonial on the back and I want to read it. In the work that I do, I'm ever dependent on letters, diaries, unpublished memoirs, etc. I often think that future historians and biographers are going to have little or nothing to work with. Since nobody writes letters or keeps a diary anymore. David McCullough, this is a great memoir. I want to encourage all of my listeners to go out and get a copy, we'll put a link on Amazon. Mary, I want to thank you for being on inside personal growth today. sharing your wisdom, your life insights, your life flashes, a few of your stories, and relating to our listeners in such a great way. Well,

Merrie H. Reagan
yeah, I just wanted to say that if you go to the website, my author at my pen name is Mary M E, R, R, I, E, H, Regan, R, EA, GA, and there's a couple of videos on the on the website that will they're short, they're one slight and comical and entertaining. And the other one is inspiring, solemn and thought provoking. And both if you look at each one of those, it'll give you an overview of the style of the book and you'll be able to discern whether or not right away whether or not you want to read the book. Thank you very much, Greg, for the for interviewing me, you are clearly a very, very professional, very disciplined, you prepare, you show up, you ask interesting questions. And I can see that you really all through the, you really have a connection with your audience all through the all through the interview. You've been talking with me but then reconnecting with the audience and I can see that that relationship is real and real and admirable. Thank you. Yeah.

Greg Voisen
Thank you for the compliment. I appreciate that. And I'm sure my listeners will appreciate you as well. And I just want to encourage them to go to m-e-r-r-i-e, H is her middle initial, r-e-a-g-a-n dot com. As she said, There you'll find videos knows you'll find excerpts, you'll find information about the book and connect with her. There's a spot where there you can send her an email, just connect with her. So, Mary, thanks again for being on inside personal growth. Namaste to you blessings to you have a wonderful rest of your day. And we look forward to seeing you again soon.

Merrie H. Reagan
I hope so. I hope we'll be able to talk for a few minutes afterwards.

Greg Voisen
Okay.